tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5397103.post1408597836216849169..comments2024-01-02T18:05:23.666-06:00Comments on Streak's Blog: StrugglingStreakhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01443433745929880701noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5397103.post-59613560354059516362012-06-09T10:40:33.475-05:002012-06-09T10:40:33.475-05:00I agree with Smitty's comments re: atheism. As...I agree with Smitty's comments re: atheism. As a clarification, though, I think that in practice, faith among laypeople in the U.S. (in the sense of non-ordained, not uneducated) seems to be rarely about belief in an actual deity, so much as a belief in the power of a group or organization that preaches love and charity to breathe life into its vision. It's a faith that the church can actually make things better for people - make sure they are safe and fed, give them meaning in the midst of the crushing dullness of the present, and hope for a better future for them and their children. <br /><br />Seeing so many churches and prominent people of faith going out of their way to comfort the comfortable and oppress the afflicted is a terrible betrayal for people who try to have faith in the message of hope ostensibly championed by those who are working diligently to crush that hope. This doesn't have any direct connection to God (except that for whatever reason, God is not preserving his/her message). But that betrayal of trust by people can make it harder to trust people in general. This can be a deeper and more grievous wound than losing faith in someone who was never really there to begin with.leightonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07821884432248870789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5397103.post-48564783622096783512012-06-08T12:17:17.323-05:002012-06-08T12:17:17.323-05:00On the" Poor will be with you always" co...On the" Poor will be with you always" comment, it is entirely possible that Jesus meant 'you' to be Judas, not all of humanity for all of eternity. Something to think about.<br /><br />Below is an organization that works on the principle that we CAN end poverty.<br /><br />http://www.live58.org/Monk-in-Traininghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07373661525025912462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5397103.post-89233555019039316722012-06-07T14:31:26.554-05:002012-06-07T14:31:26.554-05:00Sorry about the atheism comment
Oh, no need! Lik...<i>Sorry about the atheism comment</i><br /><br />Oh, no need! Like I said, I was splitting hairs. You were making a larger point, really, I think, about the church being at risk for losing followers; maybe not so much to atheism, but certainly from a lack of interest in belonging to an abusive and oppressive club.<br /><br /><i>Bottled an Anchor clone (didn't taste like that when I bottled, but who knows) </i><br /><br />I did one of those years ago. I hated the taste too, but after carbonation (and steam beer gets a shitload of that), it was way better. As long as the flavors you hate aren't "band-aid," "plastic," or "over-boiled vegetables," you should be just fine!Noahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14345059376742159966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5397103.post-11339346113581293842012-06-07T08:56:59.687-05:002012-06-07T08:56:59.687-05:00Good points, Smitty. I had read something like th...Good points, Smitty. I had read something like that about Wisconsin too. And the senate win is not nothing. It is enough for Democrats to stop Walker from steamrolling them. <br /><br />Sorry about the atheism comment. Of course, you are right. <br /><br />Bottled an Anchor clone (didn't taste like that when I bottled, but who knows) the other day, and have a Chinook IPA in secondary. Both of those make me happier than reading politics.Streakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01443433745929880701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5397103.post-22045315649476271282012-06-07T08:01:43.774-05:002012-06-07T08:01:43.774-05:00I saw some polling that pretty strongly suggests t...I saw some polling that pretty strongly suggests that part of the failure of the Walker recall was based on the notion that some 60% of voters tend to think recalls are a bad idea unless someone is a felon. Recalling someone because you disagree seems to sit poorly with some voters.<br /><br />SEIU had an interesting take: sure, Walker won. But he had to spend $50 million, and in another recall, the WI Senate flipped back to Dems. So...$50 million to stay in office <i>and</i> he lost the Senate? Not a total loss at all for the good guys.<br /><br /><i>Are they trying to recruit for atheism</i><br /><br />I don't want to split hairs and take too much focus away WI recalls and the like, but just wanted to point out that for most of us non-believing heathens, the church and its actions isn't what drove us away. It's the fact that, rationally, "He" just isn't there for us. We do tend to yell and scream a lot when the church does really insanely stupid oppressive shit, but that's not our reason for leaving. It justifies it to some degree, but really, we get pissed off about that stuff because all that insane oppression and violence is being done to glorify the name of something that's <i>not there</i>. OH <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell's_teapot" rel="nofollow">TEAPOT IN THE STARS</a>, HELP ME SLAY MINE ENEMIES WHO DARE TO WEAR CLOTHES I DON'T LIKE...<br /><br />So we don't recruit like the gays apparently do (joking, obviously). But I <i>will</i> say that the grass is a really pretty shade of green over here, flowers are still pretty, and the universe is fascinating. Now, where did I put our full-color brochure... ;)Noahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14345059376742159966noreply@blogger.com