tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5397103.post541431845633617057..comments2024-01-02T18:05:23.666-06:00Comments on Streak's Blog: For the Ron Paul fansStreakhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01443433745929880701noreply@blogger.comBlogger65125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5397103.post-84361226361372278922007-12-27T23:03:00.000-06:002007-12-27T23:03:00.000-06:00Ok, once again, ignore the issue. You guys want t...Ok, once again, ignore the issue. You guys want to dismiss the Nobel peace prize because Al Gore and Jimmy Carter have won it--that is fine. I really don't care (though I suspect had Bush won, the tone would be different). But the issue of climate change is real and something that will impact the poorest in the world the worst. <BR/><BR/>As I have remarked several times, I don't understand why Christians who claim that Creationism is the only way to understand the world--seem to have very little concern about mankind destroying or dramatically altering God's creation.Streakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01443433745929880701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5397103.post-11768906695644369102007-12-27T19:26:00.000-06:002007-12-27T19:26:00.000-06:00Nobel Peace Prize was also awarded to the the Araf...Nobel Peace Prize was also awarded to the the Arafat. That is very prestigious! Wow I wish I could get something the world thought that a terrorist deserved.<BR/><BR/>Next, nothing wrong with lowering emissions. We have the technology to make it where you should mandate improved gas mileage. You know like by 2015 every car produced must make a 100 miles per gallon on the highway and 75 in the city.<BR/><BR/>Then you let captialism take its course and allow us to come up with a free enterprise solution.fightingpreacherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09596062768302196930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5397103.post-56003261376478807182007-12-27T16:45:00.000-06:002007-12-27T16:45:00.000-06:00Funny the latest from the Scientific Community fro...<I>Funny the latest from the Scientific Community from abroad (meaning the world, not the US) is saying it is false. </I><BR/><BR/>Yeah right. Only in Jim Inhofe's brain. The consensus on global warming is pretty convincing. And even if they are off--what is wrong with reducing emissions? Nothing, unless you are an Oil company exec. <BR/><BR/><I>Sounds like a pretigious thing to me.</I><BR/><BR/>What?Streakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01443433745929880701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5397103.post-77767135407552363612007-12-27T16:02:00.000-06:002007-12-27T16:02:00.000-06:00Funny the latest from the Scientific Community fro...Funny the latest from the Scientific Community from abroad (meaning the world, not the US) is saying it is false. <BR/><BR/>Further what was that terrorist in Palestine who got the award?<BR/><BR/>Sounds like a pretigious thing to me.fightingpreacherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09596062768302196930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5397103.post-2013829050941391492007-12-27T10:36:00.000-06:002007-12-27T10:36:00.000-06:00Except Gore didn't say half the stuff that the rig...Except Gore didn't say half the stuff that the right claims he did. Boy, the right does hate Al Gore. What did he do to merit that hatred? Win a Nobel prize? Actually bring attention to climate change while the administration muzzled their own scientists?Streakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01443433745929880701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5397103.post-7132386452560797932007-12-27T10:24:00.000-06:002007-12-27T10:24:00.000-06:00Well lets start with that Gore isnt attached to re...Well lets start with that Gore isnt attached to reality. Hence the consistent and constant lying and making stuff up. Next, he would of some how been more concerned with Global Warming than the response to terrorism and even to this day he has an inability to actually speak about the events of terrorism. Finally, while in the role of vice president he did virtually nothing concerning the 4 attacks against America while serving.fightingpreacherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09596062768302196930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5397103.post-1483981877449729312007-12-27T10:05:00.000-06:002007-12-27T10:05:00.000-06:00Thanks. I need more hints to follow stupidity. O...Thanks. I need more hints to follow stupidity. <BR/><BR/>One of the things we learned during the cold war was that people act and believe in different ways than it appears from one angle. Just because, for example, a person called themselves a communist in China, did not mean that they meant the same thing as the communist in the USSR. We erred often in assuming that communism ameliorated ethnic and national lines. <BR/><BR/>Likewise, I would suggest that just because you believe that all of Islam is radical and hates the west, you don't actually know that. You have bits of data that suggest that kind of feeling, but you have lumped them all together because it supports what you already believe. <BR/><BR/>That kind of thinking would probably get you hired in the Bush administration, but it doesn't help you here. <BR/><BR/>None of that is to say that there aren't elements of Islam that hate us and actually do want a caliphate. But most don't, or only like it as a theoretical idea. Most people in Iran, for example, have a very positive view of America. In the leadership? Not so much. Talking to my female students from Syria and Kuwait, I learn that many muslim states are not nearly the picture you present. But then again, you are already sure that Islam is evil. <BR/><BR/>How about we return to the worst President debate. I like how you posit that Gore would have been worse--as if you have anything to back that up. It is hard to imagine any person handling all of this worse than Bush, but I guess anything is possible. Perhaps Gore could have invaded Germany in response to 9-11 (since one of the hijackers spent time there) or might have invaded Venezuela (just because). Of course, he might have acted rationally, and in that case, we might have Osama by now.Streakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01443433745929880701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5397103.post-11354447709805106782007-12-27T09:52:00.000-06:002007-12-27T09:52:00.000-06:00Here is a hint for you...Radical Islam hated Ameri...Here is a hint for you...Radical Islam hated America before Bush was president, before Clinton was president, before Bush senior was president, before Reagan was president.fightingpreacherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09596062768302196930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5397103.post-53414748855461136262007-12-27T09:47:00.000-06:002007-12-27T09:47:00.000-06:00Your poll numbers don't tell us why those people s...Your poll numbers don't tell us why those people support Osama and they don't tell us why they hate America. The opinions of the others are just that, opinions. <BR/><BR/>Ok, Bush against the rest of the presidents. I think I have said this before, but we have had incompetence and we have had destructive before. Harding was incompetent, Grant was incompetent and so was Andrew Johnson. And we have had the destructive types--Nixon being the best example, since Bush seems to have copied much of the "unitary executive" nonsense from Nixon. But I don't know of an incompetent destructive President on par with Bush. I can't remember a President who has been so incompetent in administering his office AND attempting to undermine the Constitution.Streakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01443433745929880701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5397103.post-82754127116008727252007-12-27T09:38:00.000-06:002007-12-27T09:38:00.000-06:00Radical Islamic assassin kills Benazir Bhutto. In...Radical Islamic assassin kills Benazir Bhutto. In recent poll the current president has a 14% approval rating where Al Qaeda is at 47%...<BR/><BR/>man that minority of Radical Islamic Muslimsfightingpreacherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09596062768302196930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5397103.post-964750303244046642007-12-27T09:16:00.000-06:002007-12-27T09:16:00.000-06:00Streak I would like to thank you for challenging m...Streak I would like to thank you for challenging me on several issues. It is because of you that I began to do more research on Islam. Specifically I would like to thank you for the challenge on moderate muslim. It is becuase of your challenge I found this information.<BR/><BR/>American Moderate Muslim Leader Kamal Nawash said that "50 percent of muslims worldwide supported the jihad"<BR/><BR/>During terrorism finance trial in New York, in February 2005, Bernard Haykel an associate professor of Islamic studies at New York University said "There are a billion plus Muslims in the Arab world, 90% of whom support Hamas"<BR/><BR/>May 2005 Dr. Imran Waheed the London spokesman for the international "peaceful" jihadist group Hizb ut-Tahrir declared "I believe that 99% of Muslim people anywhere want teh samething, a caliphate to rule them."<BR/><BR/>According to a survey conducted in Pakistan in 2004 by the Pew Research Center, "65% favoured Osama and pluralities of 47% believed Palestinian suicide attacks on Israelis were justified. 46% thought attacks on westerners in Iraq were justified."<BR/><BR/><BR/>So lets look at that...50% being the most conservative estimate...lets cut that in half. So 25% of just under 2 billion comes up too 437,500,000 radical islamics ( i am not great at math so I could be wrong)<BR/><BR/>Seems to me a much bigger problem than the small 60,000 that are convicted wrongly.fightingpreacherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09596062768302196930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5397103.post-39132659622123032382007-12-27T08:59:00.000-06:002007-12-27T08:59:00.000-06:00So streak one other president? I didnt say Bush d...So streak one other president? I didnt say Bush did a great job. So maybe FDR did a better job.<BR/><BR/>But I think all things considered Bush hasnt done the best, but definitely has done better than Gore would of done in the same position.fightingpreacherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09596062768302196930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5397103.post-39800694807980994142007-12-27T08:21:00.000-06:002007-12-27T08:21:00.000-06:00What other president has had1. Huge natural disast...<I>What other president has had<BR/>1. Huge natural disaster +<BR/>2. Huge act of war 9/11 +<BR/>3. Facing huge deficit +</I><BR/><BR/>Well, on points one and two, most Presidents have had to deal with some kind of natural disaster. FDR had both--and he responded to both much better than Bush has. Bush took 9-11 and used it to invade the wrong country, and completely booted Katrina. As I pointed out to you, Hoover was able to supply people living on river levies in much shorter time in 1927 with far less technology, than Bush was able to respond to Katrina. Of course, Bush had to do a photo-op or two first, where he joked about getting drunk in New Orleans.<BR/><BR/>And Bush came into office with a Budget surplus, btw. He has spent all of that on his wars and tax cuts. Can't raise taxes even to pay for his wars. <BR/><BR/>Yeah, he has had some bad things happen under his presidency. But he hasn't handled any of them well. <BR/><BR/>On the other hand, can you name a successfully implemented policy for this man?Streakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01443433745929880701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5397103.post-28841629938264343882007-12-26T23:29:00.000-06:002007-12-26T23:29:00.000-06:00BB...now who makes the false conclusions"Sad to he...BB...now who makes the false conclusions<BR/><BR/>"Sad to hear so much death and destruction appeals to you"fightingpreacherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09596062768302196930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5397103.post-43839607495688546662007-12-26T22:57:00.000-06:002007-12-26T22:57:00.000-06:00FP- you like to skip alot of discussion and procee...FP- you like to skip alot of discussion and proceed to false conclusions. I might go so far as to say war is evil. Sometimes it may serve as the necessary lesser of two evils. Sad to hear so much death and destruction appeals to you.Bootleg Bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11842413990753418066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5397103.post-8233665635245748332007-12-26T22:48:00.000-06:002007-12-26T22:48:00.000-06:00I think you are wrong. I dont think Bush will go ...I think you are wrong. I dont think Bush will go down as the greatest, but surely will go down as the one with the greatest challenge of any president ever. In light of his term...I think he could of done better, but history will show him favor.<BR/><BR/>What other president has had<BR/>1. Huge natural disaster +<BR/>2. Huge act of war 9/11 +<BR/>3. Facing huge deficit +<BR/><BR/><BR/>Who else?fightingpreacherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09596062768302196930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5397103.post-72367258554365356672007-12-26T22:16:00.000-06:002007-12-26T22:16:00.000-06:00But it is you who have missed the point. We recog...But it is you who have missed the point. We recognize that war sometimes happens. We just don't celebrate it like you. <BR/><BR/>And Saddam is still a terrible example for your point. We didn't have to go to invade. History will, I suspect, make that point. Of course, the Bush people won't care.Streakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01443433745929880701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5397103.post-27452982055425658802007-12-26T22:03:00.000-06:002007-12-26T22:03:00.000-06:00Not at all. What the point that you guys missed w...Not at all. What the point that you guys missed was this. Pacifism and negotiation are great if one is willing to acknowledge or recieve either! In the case of all of the examples I used both pacifism and negotiation were used to no avail. Ask the great historian Streak he should be able to tell you. Did people try the pacifist route with Hitler? Look at all the negotiations that took place with Saddam. <BR/><BR/>Here is why I made that comment. Where will BB and Streak be when pacifism and negotiation fail? What then is your answer? It must be war.<BR/><BR/>My point is this. You act as though war is evil and rarely necessary, but when in reality it is not evil and actually more necessary than either of you would like to admit.<BR/><BR/>The problem is you have thrown the baby out with the bathwater because of the supposed abuses of this adminstrationfightingpreacherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09596062768302196930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5397103.post-57127032247847368692007-12-26T21:45:00.000-06:002007-12-26T21:45:00.000-06:00"I would of loved to see Ghandi talk with Saddam, ..."I would of loved to see Ghandi talk with Saddam, Hitler, Stalin, or Osama." <BR/><BR/>I have no doubt that you would. Thanks for the thought provoking response. I think I get it- you prefer the violent solution, don't want to discuss alternatives. Who would have guessed?Bootleg Bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11842413990753418066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5397103.post-51962869537395833092007-12-26T21:43:00.000-06:002007-12-26T21:43:00.000-06:00I would of loved to see Ghandi talk with Saddam, H...<I>I would of loved to see Ghandi talk with Saddam, Hitler, Stalin, or Osama.</I><BR/><BR/>Yes, of course, that is the point. Thanks for following along. We get it. Pacifism is weak and unpatriotic. Anyone advocating peace or something called "negotiation" are probably idiots or commies. <BR/><BR/>Aren't you and Brad Stine due for a "board breaking exhibition?"Streakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01443433745929880701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5397103.post-50062006955828216362007-12-26T21:36:00.000-06:002007-12-26T21:36:00.000-06:00I would of loved to see Ghandi talk with Saddam, H...I would of loved to see Ghandi talk with Saddam, Hitler, Stalin, or Osama.fightingpreacherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09596062768302196930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5397103.post-32387195315997704662007-12-26T21:32:00.000-06:002007-12-26T21:32:00.000-06:00I think those who advocate pacifism or nonviolence...<I>I think those who advocate pacifism or nonviolence are often the best among us, frequently suffering intensely for their devotion to these principles. Some of them have also been responsible for some of the most sweeping changes in the world, all accomplished without killing anyone. Very few, if any, could be rationally labeled "wussies". Quite the opposite. So, I don't apologize one bit for wanting to discuss alternatives for war. </I><BR/><BR/>It sure seems that it is easier in this culture (despite all the bs about political correctness) to espouse war than peace. Just as it is easier to support capital punishment despite the race and class bias. Americans seem to rally to their John Wayne vision of war--forgetting, of course, that John Wayne never went to war.Streakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01443433745929880701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5397103.post-14181622187016940572007-12-26T21:27:00.000-06:002007-12-26T21:27:00.000-06:00I am not convinced, but respect Steve's take. I c...I am not convinced, but respect Steve's take. I certainly don't respect the Bushies "state's rights-until we need a strong federal stance" take. <BR/><BR/>But we can agree to disagree.Streakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01443433745929880701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5397103.post-90686590511616440532007-12-26T20:57:00.000-06:002007-12-26T20:57:00.000-06:00Hmmm...look forward to seeing Streaks response to ...Hmmm...look forward to seeing Streaks response to that.fightingpreacherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09596062768302196930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5397103.post-64189632019047748442007-12-26T20:30:00.000-06:002007-12-26T20:30:00.000-06:00Regarding Bush v. Gore. I was in law school when ...Regarding Bush v. Gore. I was in law school when this was decided and we spent a great deal of time discussing the case. It is unfortunate that it reached that point, but I do believe they reached the correct conclusion (from a purely Constitutional standpoint).steveshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08862590608695420004noreply@blogger.com