tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5397103.post7719036045780572092..comments2024-01-02T18:05:23.666-06:00Comments on Streak's Blog: Christians and tortureStreakhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01443433745929880701noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5397103.post-73841668653526716372009-04-07T20:22:00.000-05:002009-04-07T20:22:00.000-05:00Tony, your record is clear and clean. I am still ...Tony, your record is clear and clean. I am still amazed (as I know you are) that Christian pastors would defend this. I wonder if any of them have read the Red Cross report and know what they defended? Would that matter? <BR/><BR/>I remember saying to a conservative friend that if Christians values didn't include opposition and disgust at torture, there were no Christian values. He seemed less convinced. <BR/><BR/>But of all of the things that have eroded my respect for conservative Christianity, none is more than their tepid (at best) response to torture.Streakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01443433745929880701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5397103.post-29591803217743471062009-04-07T19:57:00.000-05:002009-04-07T19:57:00.000-05:00Let me weigh in as one of those conservative Chris...Let me weigh in as one of those conservative Christians that opposed torture in all forms and still does. I would wholeheartedly agree that there is a conservative Christian base that still thinks torture is Christian. <BR/><BR/>I read in a lengthy comment thread at the collaborative SBC blog that I used to contribute to several Christians and sadly, PASTORS, arguing the ethics of torture. Needless to say, I threw up in my soul. I probably should have gotten involved in the discussion but just did not have the stomach for it that day.Tonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13090951749017263188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5397103.post-77095975381498112872009-04-07T12:11:00.000-05:002009-04-07T12:11:00.000-05:00Absolutely, Monk. I completely agree. This, like...Absolutely, Monk. I completely agree. This, like so many of my frustrated comments, is aimed at the Christians who supported Bush because of his supposed faith, and continued to do so regardless of what came out on torture. <BR/><BR/>A conservative friend told me yesterday that he believes that most conservative Christians simply could not believe the torture stuff, and just kept assuming that this was part of the left's attack on Bush. I think that is partially true. Unfortunately, I think there is also a segment of that Bush base/Christian conservative base that really doesn't mind us torturing people in the model of 24.Streakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01443433745929880701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5397103.post-4919812043498512122009-04-07T12:04:00.000-05:002009-04-07T12:04:00.000-05:00SOME Christians did protest torture, but we were n...SOME Christians did protest torture, but we were not as loud as we should have been.Monk-in-Traininghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07373661525025912462noreply@blogger.com