Oh this is just too much!

Thanks to CIL, we have a story about a creation "science" person debating a philosophy professor at the University of Wyoming. Read the entire story for the full "debate," but a couple of things caught my eye--mostly for their total lack of logic or sense. My favorite was Hovind's (the Creationist) call for us to exercise our common sense, as we only see "dogs give birth to dogs." This, I believe, is supposed to rebut cross-species evolution, but assumes that such cross-species evolution might just happen.... overnight. One day your dog is giving birth and after a few puppies come out---whoa, that looks like a duck.

But my other favorite was the faulty reasoning for why teaching evolution is bad:

"Hovind believes that if you teach schoolchildren that they evolved from apes, they will start acting like them. He thinks drug use, sexually transmitted diseases and an increased crime rate among teens is partly based on the exclusive teaching of evolution. When Griesmaier countered that European countries have a lower violent crime rate and a lower rate of church attendance than the United States, Hovind took issue with the countries (which included England, France, and the Netherlands) in his opponent's example.

"Those decreased murder rates were all from countries with socialistic governments and total gun control," said Hovind. "I'll take my gun, thank you."

Hmm. Evidently when prudent gun control actually leads to reduced crime, that is a bad thing. And, of course, Hovind ignores that these supposedly socialist countries teach evolution. Wouldn't, under his logic, the bad crime and kids "acting like apes" happen regardless of the gun control laws?

The other part that I wish Griesmaer would have brought out is that countries that are more attuned to science and teach science to their students have less of the other kinds of social ills that Hovind could not blame on socialism or gun control. Fewer abortions, stds, etc.

Oh well.