Will be on the road for a few days. May do some blogging, but who knows.
Hold down the fort.
July 28, 2005
July 27, 2005
Bush's true character
As Frank Rich writes here, Bush's true character, far from being godly or Christian, is one of revenge and retribution. And his chief agent in that matter is Karl Rove.
No character here. No virtue. No Godliness. Just hard-nosed gang-style punishment for anyone who dares question the President.
Eight Days in July - New York Times: "On that evening's broadcast of ABC's 'World News Tonight,' American soldiers in Falluja spoke angrily of how their tour of duty had been extended yet again, only a week after Donald Rumsfeld told them they were going home. Soon the Drudge Report announced that ABC's correspondent, Jeffrey Kofman, was gay. Matt Drudge told Lloyd Grove of The Washington Post at the time that 'someone from the White House communications shop' had given him that information.
Mr. McClellan denied White House involvement with any Kofman revelation, a denial now worth as much as his denials of White House involvement with the trashing of the Wilsons. Identifying someone as gay isn't a crime in any event, but the 'outing' of Mr. Kofman (who turned out to be openly gay) almost simultaneously with the outing of Ms. Plame points to a pervasive culture of revenge in the White House and offers a clue as to who might be driving it. As Joshua Green reported in detail in The Atlantic Monthly last year, a recurring feature of Mr. Rove's political campaigns throughout his career has been the questioning of an 'opponent's sexual orientation.'"
No character here. No virtue. No Godliness. Just hard-nosed gang-style punishment for anyone who dares question the President.
July 26, 2005
Rick Santorum
Saw the Rickster on the Daily Show last night. Interesting. He was better than I expected. But what struck me the most was the shift in argument. Opponents of gay marriage, like Santorum, now argue that they are just defending traditional marrage. He said last night that the government should promote the ideal, and that is traditional marriage.
But before gay marriage was on the table, these same people were out campaigning and raising money to stop the "gay agenda." They have a real credibility gap here. They aren't just against gay marriage, they don't want people to be gay.
Speaking of that, did anyone see the 30 Days episode on homosexuality? It was pretty good. It is still incredibly hard for me to dismiss the experience of these men and women who, when they were younger, would have done anything to be straight and accepted. They would have loved to be in love with the opposite sex. But they weren't.
Santorum is running a con here. He says he is just against gay marriage, but conservative Christians don't want anyone to be gay. But as I wrote last year, all they are doing is succeeding in insuring that gays dislike them and the evangelical church. They aren't stopping anyone from being gay. Just stopping those who are from being accepted and loved.
But before gay marriage was on the table, these same people were out campaigning and raising money to stop the "gay agenda." They have a real credibility gap here. They aren't just against gay marriage, they don't want people to be gay.
Speaking of that, did anyone see the 30 Days episode on homosexuality? It was pretty good. It is still incredibly hard for me to dismiss the experience of these men and women who, when they were younger, would have done anything to be straight and accepted. They would have loved to be in love with the opposite sex. But they weren't.
Santorum is running a con here. He says he is just against gay marriage, but conservative Christians don't want anyone to be gay. But as I wrote last year, all they are doing is succeeding in insuring that gays dislike them and the evangelical church. They aren't stopping anyone from being gay. Just stopping those who are from being accepted and loved.
July 25, 2005
Bruce at "This is Class Warfare"
A good statement of the problem at hand:
Exactly. And that is where the church has let us down in a huge way. It is one thing to be conservative, it is another to completely fall prostrate on your face to kiss the ring of this president because he has simply told you he was religious. And then to ignore any evidence to the contrary is inexcusable. As I wrote last fall, Bush has done more to undermine evangelicalism than help it. Long term, we will see that people have lost tremendous amount of respect for conservative people of faith.
Bruce has some thoughts on how this divide occurs among people who essentially share the same broad assumptions. Language screws us, to a certain degree. We all believe in due process, freedom, equality, etc. We all believe in tolerance and justice and the american way. We all value the individual civil rights of our fellow citizens.
But, as Ross Perot was fond of saying, the devil is in the details. What those individual things mean to different segments of the country probably explain why we differ on so many issues.
This is Class Warfare: "Personally I don't think that Bush himself has to make all that much effort to appear religious. Its the word from the pulpit, that Bush is a man of God, that is driving evangelicals to put their faith in Him (I mean Bush, not God). The ownership language is particularly interesting. Religious people in this country refer to Bush as 'our president', meaning they feel that Bush is enacting their agenda and working for them. Bush himself only has to pepper his speeches with vague allusions to reinforce this perception.
Whether Bush himself is following the teachings of Jesus is as irrelavent, as is asking whether the churches that call themselves Christian are doing so either. Right wing Christianity is a identity movement. Bush is practing crass identity politics. He is a annointed head of the Republican party, and thus, by default, a man of god.
Exactly. And that is where the church has let us down in a huge way. It is one thing to be conservative, it is another to completely fall prostrate on your face to kiss the ring of this president because he has simply told you he was religious. And then to ignore any evidence to the contrary is inexcusable. As I wrote last fall, Bush has done more to undermine evangelicalism than help it. Long term, we will see that people have lost tremendous amount of respect for conservative people of faith.
That Bush is a man of god is an article of faith among the right, just as it is a known fact that liberals are causing the decline of America.
Evidence to the contrary is neither regarded as credible or even considered.
Bruce has some thoughts on how this divide occurs among people who essentially share the same broad assumptions. Language screws us, to a certain degree. We all believe in due process, freedom, equality, etc. We all believe in tolerance and justice and the american way. We all value the individual civil rights of our fellow citizens.
But, as Ross Perot was fond of saying, the devil is in the details. What those individual things mean to different segments of the country probably explain why we differ on so many issues.
SBC declares war on feminism
Or, perhaps, re-declares war. From Carlos these two stories from Southern Baptists attacking feminism. Odd, isn't it, with all the other concerns we have, that the basic idea that women are equal would attract such attack?
First, Al MohlerWe Need More Faithful Husbands -- Not 'Passive Nice Guys' quotes from a book he wants us all to buy and read;
Evidently those of us who see marriage as a partnership are wrong. Even though we share our battles and try to be there to back the other one up when they are down, well, we are just nancy-boys.
Nothing like a literal reading of an ancient myth to justify misogyny.
But that isn't all. Over at BP News we have commentary from the same guy who wroteWhy I'm Raising Violent 4 Year-Olds.
Well, here, he is excoriating feminism. Is there a talking points memo out from the SBC leadership that instructs all talking heads to attack feminism this week? Note, they never attack poverty, or consumerism. Never question the Bush administration. Never question environmental policies. Never. But by God we have to keep women down.
Here, while really attacking John McCain (the republican that all religious right people fear), and calling Susan Estrich a feminist (not even sure that is true anymore), Moore has this to say about feminism: "Let me say that I consider feminism one of the most dangerous, utopian, and ultimately hopeless causes of the 21st century world." Really? Most dangrous utopian idea? That women are equal? You moron. You depraved, knuckle-dragging idiot!
Well, nothing new here. Conservatives have been attacking feminism since it was merely a vehicle for suffrage. In the early 20th century, faced with great uncertainty about the family, women who didn't immediately seek marriage and children were considered deeply flawed, and possibly gay. There never has been room in the conservative evangelical tent for women. Speaking of a utiopia, it is there where men rule the roost, and are treated as conquerers. Promise Keepers, militias, etc., have been mechanisms to assure the fragile male ego that in a small, and dwindling part of society, masculinity still rules.
This is tilting at windmills. I don't see women giving up what they have gained, nor do I see all the progressive men acquiescing to the religious right. This is holding up a mythical past as a way to assuage contemporary fear. But the impact on young men and women is real. And I am sorry for that. I am sorry that this guy has a platform to espouse this crap. But, in the end, equality is right.
First, Al MohlerWe Need More Faithful Husbands -- Not 'Passive Nice Guys' quotes from a book he wants us all to buy and read;
"The constant imbibing of feminism, mixing together with man's native sinfulness, has resulted in an epidemic of passive-purple-four-ballism in modern marriages. Men have permitted themselves to be emasculated into a company of wimp eunuchs, who believe it should be their goal to strive toward being passive nice guys in their homes. We've been told, and actually now believe, that 'authority' is a naughty word, that male headship is abusive, and that aggressive leadership is rude. Thus, husbands have abdicated the driver's seat and taken a back seat in their marriages.
Evidently those of us who see marriage as a partnership are wrong. Even though we share our battles and try to be there to back the other one up when they are down, well, we are just nancy-boys.
Adam has become the poster-boy for today's fashionably easy-going husband. Instead of assertively standing at the forefront of his marriage, talking nose to nose with the crafty serpent, he's content to sit back and let Eve to the talking. And when Eve gave her husband the fruit, instead of standing up like a man and boldly refusing to transgress God's Word, he passively caved into the unprincipled and misguided desires of his wife (cf. Genesis 3:1-6). As a result, Adam cursed his family."
Nothing like a literal reading of an ancient myth to justify misogyny.
But that isn't all. Over at BP News we have commentary from the same guy who wroteWhy I'm Raising Violent 4 Year-Olds.
Well, here, he is excoriating feminism. Is there a talking points memo out from the SBC leadership that instructs all talking heads to attack feminism this week? Note, they never attack poverty, or consumerism. Never question the Bush administration. Never question environmental policies. Never. But by God we have to keep women down.
Here, while really attacking John McCain (the republican that all religious right people fear), and calling Susan Estrich a feminist (not even sure that is true anymore), Moore has this to say about feminism: "Let me say that I consider feminism one of the most dangerous, utopian, and ultimately hopeless causes of the 21st century world." Really? Most dangrous utopian idea? That women are equal? You moron. You depraved, knuckle-dragging idiot!
Well, nothing new here. Conservatives have been attacking feminism since it was merely a vehicle for suffrage. In the early 20th century, faced with great uncertainty about the family, women who didn't immediately seek marriage and children were considered deeply flawed, and possibly gay. There never has been room in the conservative evangelical tent for women. Speaking of a utiopia, it is there where men rule the roost, and are treated as conquerers. Promise Keepers, militias, etc., have been mechanisms to assure the fragile male ego that in a small, and dwindling part of society, masculinity still rules.
This is tilting at windmills. I don't see women giving up what they have gained, nor do I see all the progressive men acquiescing to the religious right. This is holding up a mythical past as a way to assuage contemporary fear. But the impact on young men and women is real. And I am sorry for that. I am sorry that this guy has a platform to espouse this crap. But, in the end, equality is right.
July 23, 2005
girls softball
We went to a softball game tonight. And really enjoyed ourselves, for the most part. I think the age group was 10 and under, and the competition was fierce.
In many ways, it represented much of what is good about our culture--and much of what isn't.
First, the good. I love seeing young girls play softball with grit, discipline and determination. Nothing dainty about it. If she throws "like a girl," it is a compliment. That sort of thing. I saw a 10 year old drilled in the back running down the first base line. She got up and went back to the plate (foul ball). I also appreciated that many of the fathers in the crowd were just as attentive and obnoxious about their daughter's softball as they were about the boys. 20 years ago (maybe 30), fathers might have shown less interest in the sporting interests of girls. And finally, we had attentive and loyal parents. Parents who drive hundreds of miles to compete in tournaments and spend a lot of money to do so.
So, what was bad, you ask? Compared to the truly bad of our society and culture, nothing really comes close. But I (as a non-parent) was struck by the obsession with children. (I am reminded here of one of my favorite Simpsons episode where Reverend Lovejoy's wife keeps shouting, "Won't someone think of the children?") And children who perform. It seems legitimate to ask if those parents can tell the difference between their own ambitions and their children's.
Many of these people live in a bubble. Their world is made up of obsessing over children and making money. Not that they aren't good parents or even good people, but in the global (or historical) sense, they are anomalous.
Don't get me wrong. There is much to laud here. Parents who care about their kids, for example. I saw many great examples of very good sportsmanship (or sportswomanship) from parents. And I know some of them and know that they care deeply about their kids. All good things.
But in the back of my mind, there was a mild alarm. Alarm that kids this age couldn't just "play." They had to have gigantic tournaments and scripted and organized "competition."
I know these young girls will be better off. They will learn competition and the ability to work with others. They will be much less likely to allow a man to push them around or coerce them into a situation they don't really want. But at a cultural level, I wonder.
That is all, really. I just wonder.
In many ways, it represented much of what is good about our culture--and much of what isn't.
First, the good. I love seeing young girls play softball with grit, discipline and determination. Nothing dainty about it. If she throws "like a girl," it is a compliment. That sort of thing. I saw a 10 year old drilled in the back running down the first base line. She got up and went back to the plate (foul ball). I also appreciated that many of the fathers in the crowd were just as attentive and obnoxious about their daughter's softball as they were about the boys. 20 years ago (maybe 30), fathers might have shown less interest in the sporting interests of girls. And finally, we had attentive and loyal parents. Parents who drive hundreds of miles to compete in tournaments and spend a lot of money to do so.
So, what was bad, you ask? Compared to the truly bad of our society and culture, nothing really comes close. But I (as a non-parent) was struck by the obsession with children. (I am reminded here of one of my favorite Simpsons episode where Reverend Lovejoy's wife keeps shouting, "Won't someone think of the children?") And children who perform. It seems legitimate to ask if those parents can tell the difference between their own ambitions and their children's.
Many of these people live in a bubble. Their world is made up of obsessing over children and making money. Not that they aren't good parents or even good people, but in the global (or historical) sense, they are anomalous.
Don't get me wrong. There is much to laud here. Parents who care about their kids, for example. I saw many great examples of very good sportsmanship (or sportswomanship) from parents. And I know some of them and know that they care deeply about their kids. All good things.
But in the back of my mind, there was a mild alarm. Alarm that kids this age couldn't just "play." They had to have gigantic tournaments and scripted and organized "competition."
I know these young girls will be better off. They will learn competition and the ability to work with others. They will be much less likely to allow a man to push them around or coerce them into a situation they don't really want. But at a cultural level, I wonder.
That is all, really. I just wonder.
July 20, 2005
So, how do I feel?
Some may wonder where I stand on Bush's nomination. Here is my quick take: this was a relatively smart pick on Bushy's part. The guy doesn't have a huge track record and is demonstrably good at what he does. I am really wondering if this one is worth fighting. Bush has not put forward a nut, and so Democrats will look obstructionist if they go "to war" on this.
Am I happy with him? No, but we just won't know what kind of Judge he is for sometime. I remember being horrified that GHWB put up Souter. And now Souter is one of my favorites on the court. I think there are bigger battles to fight here. This is one where the conservatives are right--they control both houses and the White House. They get this nomination.
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A commenter argued here that Jesus never endorsed Government handouts, and I think suggested my post on McKibben was a bit unfair to conservative Christians by suggesting that they don't care about the poor. As I pointed out in the comments, McKibben addresses overall taking care of the poor here and abroad. We do a shitty job. All of us. Republicans seem to want to do less. That is my point. And, while I concede that Jesus never endorsed the Head Start program, nowhere do I read that he bashed taxes, advocated cutting those same taxes, or endorsed an overall get rich while you can mentality.
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Speaking of that, I am asking a friend of mine to justify his Republican votes by his faith. How does the Christian message correlate to voting Republican? Serious question. And if I concede that Repubs might be right on abortion, can we set that one aside? And, not conceding this point, let's stay away from homosexuality. On economics and social justice, where do Republican policies even come close to reflecting Christian values?
Anyone?
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One more point before I brave the heat to mow the lawn. It seems to me that one of the really important issues in this entire Rove debate is yet to be explored. Time Magazine essentially gave up their reporter. This is exactly what we have been fearing for sometime--that the corporatization of the news media would mean that profits would dominate over the news gathering process. don't get me wrong, I am glad this information came to light, because I really want to see Rove in prison orange. But this is a bad trend. We are not far away (or already are there) from corporate news refusing to cover corporate crime, or any news that would reflect badly on the corporate mission (by which I mean profit).
Am I happy with him? No, but we just won't know what kind of Judge he is for sometime. I remember being horrified that GHWB put up Souter. And now Souter is one of my favorites on the court. I think there are bigger battles to fight here. This is one where the conservatives are right--they control both houses and the White House. They get this nomination.
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A commenter argued here that Jesus never endorsed Government handouts, and I think suggested my post on McKibben was a bit unfair to conservative Christians by suggesting that they don't care about the poor. As I pointed out in the comments, McKibben addresses overall taking care of the poor here and abroad. We do a shitty job. All of us. Republicans seem to want to do less. That is my point. And, while I concede that Jesus never endorsed the Head Start program, nowhere do I read that he bashed taxes, advocated cutting those same taxes, or endorsed an overall get rich while you can mentality.
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Speaking of that, I am asking a friend of mine to justify his Republican votes by his faith. How does the Christian message correlate to voting Republican? Serious question. And if I concede that Repubs might be right on abortion, can we set that one aside? And, not conceding this point, let's stay away from homosexuality. On economics and social justice, where do Republican policies even come close to reflecting Christian values?
Anyone?
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One more point before I brave the heat to mow the lawn. It seems to me that one of the really important issues in this entire Rove debate is yet to be explored. Time Magazine essentially gave up their reporter. This is exactly what we have been fearing for sometime--that the corporatization of the news media would mean that profits would dominate over the news gathering process. don't get me wrong, I am glad this information came to light, because I really want to see Rove in prison orange. But this is a bad trend. We are not far away (or already are there) from corporate news refusing to cover corporate crime, or any news that would reflect badly on the corporate mission (by which I mean profit).
July 18, 2005
Christian America--huh?
Thanks to Greg over at the parish for pointing us to the recent Harper's article. I visited B&N yeserday and picked it up. As Greg notes, McKibben nails much of the current Christian identity in America. On the Christian right and politics:
McKibben goes into more detail when discussing the horrible situation in Alabama when their conservative Governor Bob Riley (who will most likely be challenged by nutjob Roy Moore) decided that the state's tax code was not only medieval, but immoral. "The richest Alabamians paid 3 percent of their income in taxes, and the poorest paid up to 12 percent; income taxes kicked in if a family of four made $4,600. . ." As he notes, and we have discussed here, the Christian response was to vote the measure down 2-1, with the Christian Coalition of Alabama leading the charge.
My favorite, actually, came from the introduction where McKibben notes that despite all the claims for Christian domination, very few people even have a clue about the Bible. Only 40 percent can name more than four of their beloved commandments. But this was the best: "Three quarters of Americans believe the Bible teaches that "God helps those who help themselves." That is, three out of four Americans believe this uber-American idea, a notion at the core of our current individualist politics and culture, which was in fact uttered by Ben Franklin, actually appears in Holy Scripture."
Go read this article.
"A rich man came to Jesus one day and asked what he should do to get into heaven. Jesus did not say he should invest, spend, and let the benefits trickle down; he said sell what you have, give the money to the poor, and follow me. Few plainer words have been spoken. And yet, for some reason, the Christian Coalition of America...proclaimed last year that its top legislative priority would be 'making permanent President Bush's 2001 federal tax cuts.'"
McKibben goes into more detail when discussing the horrible situation in Alabama when their conservative Governor Bob Riley (who will most likely be challenged by nutjob Roy Moore) decided that the state's tax code was not only medieval, but immoral. "The richest Alabamians paid 3 percent of their income in taxes, and the poorest paid up to 12 percent; income taxes kicked in if a family of four made $4,600. . ." As he notes, and we have discussed here, the Christian response was to vote the measure down 2-1, with the Christian Coalition of Alabama leading the charge.
My favorite, actually, came from the introduction where McKibben notes that despite all the claims for Christian domination, very few people even have a clue about the Bible. Only 40 percent can name more than four of their beloved commandments. But this was the best: "Three quarters of Americans believe the Bible teaches that "God helps those who help themselves." That is, three out of four Americans believe this uber-American idea, a notion at the core of our current individualist politics and culture, which was in fact uttered by Ben Franklin, actually appears in Holy Scripture."
Go read this article.
July 16, 2005
pretty good post
Religious Right Watch contrasts American evangelical values with what the NT seems to command about feeding the hungry and generally tending to the "least of these."
religious right watch: The least Jesus asks is not what the Religious Right asks: "Listening to the typical conservative evangelical or, especially, Fundamentalist sermon in 10,000's of churches in America, you would seldom get the sense that Jesus will care more about the above than he will that you:
1) Remained a virgin until your wedding night
2) Supported pro-Israel foreign policy on the belief that Israel basically can't do anything wrong
3) Refrained from ever touching a member of the same sex in any but an utterly chaste manner
4) Voted for 'Godly,' 'Bible-believing,' or 'values' candidates--i.e. Republicans per the Religious Right's definitions of 'Godly,' 'Bible-believing,' or 'values'
5) Believed that Jesus would be returning in the sky soon, quite possibly within your lifetime6) Kept yourself and your children from listening to 'secular' music or viewing 'secular' films or TV"
Good god
Thinking again about Goldberg's stupid book bemoaning the fact that a "drunk in a bar not too long ago, would not use the f-word, but Chevy Chase would call the President a dumb-blank at the Kennedy Center."
Fine, so people like me use the f-word just a little too much. I like the word. I try not to offend people (outside the blog). But the point is bigger than that. I am (in my mind) a person motivated by morality. I don't steal, cheat on my taxes. I treat my friends and family with respect.
Anyway. So, let's look at a few stories that are truly vulgar. How would Bernie react to these vulgarities?
I doubt conservatives like this either, but the win at all costs mentality of Rove and his minions reminds me of this. Can't you see Rove pushing the disabled kid so he didn't have to lose?
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or how about this (thanks, Mainstream Baptist)one about a charity in Mississippi who won't accept applications for adoption from CATHOLICS because they don't agree with the "agency's statement of faith." Big problem considering that this stupid agency gets State money. How many Christian Conservatives think that Catholics aren't really Christians? So, if they had their way, would we have not just a Christian nation, but an Evangelical Christian nation where Menonites, Catholics and Episcopalians need not apply?
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I am really close to just giving up on politics. I am certainly in news avoidance mode on the Rove situation. Republicans are just better at lying and subverting their country, I guess. The current memes going around are things like Rove being a patriotic whistle blower. That's right, the guy who has called people pedophiles or claimed that opponents had sex with black women, is actually a great American hero. Please.
Someone suggested to me that Clinton was this bad. To be this bad, Clinton and his supporters would have argued that Clinton's dalliance with Monica Lewinsky was actually a good thing for American policy. After all, a tense President could make bad decisions, right.
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A friend asked me yesterday why this stuff bothers me so much. My email response was something like this: "You see that latest post on my blog? From that other woman's blog? I grew up (as you well know) in a church and family that stressed morality. I hung out with people who did too. Even though I am no longer a church member, I have spent the last 15 years of my life defending my transition away from the conservative position. Defending it to people who all assume that I went out on some lark of rebelion but that ultimately I would come right back to where they were and where I came from.
Now I see that entire place I came from and grew up in--I see them all marching like robots with their head down. The talk of morality--all the lessons I learned as a kid? All of that seems to be gone. In its place are people who overlook torture and war, and who seem to value bizarre theories about the end times over real atrocities in our own. People who support Bush for language but not for action.
Even though I am not a Baptist any longer, the world seems upside down. And even though I know that many of those people are good people, I see them doing nothing to change it. Nothing. In fact, they vote to keep it the way it is and buy the spin from Fox news."
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So, in conclusion (and redundancy, but its my effing blog, isn't it [watching the British Open, so hear that with a british accent], I don't want to hear conservatives ever bitch and moan about cultural decline. If you can excuse Karl Rove that is all I need to know. If you can chuckle at Ann Coulter but think Michael Moore is a dangerous America-hater, then that is all I need to know.
Fine, so people like me use the f-word just a little too much. I like the word. I try not to offend people (outside the blog). But the point is bigger than that. I am (in my mind) a person motivated by morality. I don't steal, cheat on my taxes. I treat my friends and family with respect.
Anyway. So, let's look at a few stories that are truly vulgar. How would Bernie react to these vulgarities?
SI.com - More Sports - Police: Coach paid kid to hurt disabled player - Friday July 15, 2005 5:04PM: "PITTSBURGH (AP) -- A T-ball coach allegedly paid one of his players $25 to hurt an 8-year-old mentally disabled teammate so he wouldn't have to put the boy in the game, police said Friday."
I doubt conservatives like this either, but the win at all costs mentality of Rove and his minions reminds me of this. Can't you see Rove pushing the disabled kid so he didn't have to lose?
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or how about this (thanks, Mainstream Baptist)one about a charity in Mississippi who won't accept applications for adoption from CATHOLICS because they don't agree with the "agency's statement of faith." Big problem considering that this stupid agency gets State money. How many Christian Conservatives think that Catholics aren't really Christians? So, if they had their way, would we have not just a Christian nation, but an Evangelical Christian nation where Menonites, Catholics and Episcopalians need not apply?
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I am really close to just giving up on politics. I am certainly in news avoidance mode on the Rove situation. Republicans are just better at lying and subverting their country, I guess. The current memes going around are things like Rove being a patriotic whistle blower. That's right, the guy who has called people pedophiles or claimed that opponents had sex with black women, is actually a great American hero. Please.
Someone suggested to me that Clinton was this bad. To be this bad, Clinton and his supporters would have argued that Clinton's dalliance with Monica Lewinsky was actually a good thing for American policy. After all, a tense President could make bad decisions, right.
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A friend asked me yesterday why this stuff bothers me so much. My email response was something like this: "You see that latest post on my blog? From that other woman's blog? I grew up (as you well know) in a church and family that stressed morality. I hung out with people who did too. Even though I am no longer a church member, I have spent the last 15 years of my life defending my transition away from the conservative position. Defending it to people who all assume that I went out on some lark of rebelion but that ultimately I would come right back to where they were and where I came from.
Now I see that entire place I came from and grew up in--I see them all marching like robots with their head down. The talk of morality--all the lessons I learned as a kid? All of that seems to be gone. In its place are people who overlook torture and war, and who seem to value bizarre theories about the end times over real atrocities in our own. People who support Bush for language but not for action.
Even though I am not a Baptist any longer, the world seems upside down. And even though I know that many of those people are good people, I see them doing nothing to change it. Nothing. In fact, they vote to keep it the way it is and buy the spin from Fox news."
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So, in conclusion (and redundancy, but its my effing blog, isn't it [watching the British Open, so hear that with a british accent], I don't want to hear conservatives ever bitch and moan about cultural decline. If you can excuse Karl Rove that is all I need to know. If you can chuckle at Ann Coulter but think Michael Moore is a dangerous America-hater, then that is all I need to know.
July 15, 2005
Friday night music
and art.
Walked down to the midsummer fair tonight. It was just fun to see all the people milling around eating unhealthy food and listening to marginal music. Community, I think it is. I see people I know and have a few nice moments. I think about buying a ceramic bowl for my change and possibly some organic soap.
I do neither.
Meanwhile, had to rebuild the powerbook on Monday so all my playcounts were reset on Itunes. That's ok. Fun to rediscover what I love in my music collection.
For today, we are listening to:
Coldplay's A Rush of Blood to the Head--a title, as Jape can tell you, I always screw up--"kick to the side of the head" or "rush to the head of something. Whatever you call it, it is a great album. Politik, or The Scientist are great, great songs.
But the album that SOF won't stop playing (and I don't mind at all) is Ryan Adams' Cold Roses. Let it Ride, When will you come back home, or Sweet Illusions are all really great songs. Something about that voice that just soothes the angry soul.
Music is good.
Walked down to the midsummer fair tonight. It was just fun to see all the people milling around eating unhealthy food and listening to marginal music. Community, I think it is. I see people I know and have a few nice moments. I think about buying a ceramic bowl for my change and possibly some organic soap.
I do neither.
Meanwhile, had to rebuild the powerbook on Monday so all my playcounts were reset on Itunes. That's ok. Fun to rediscover what I love in my music collection.
For today, we are listening to:
Coldplay's A Rush of Blood to the Head--a title, as Jape can tell you, I always screw up--"kick to the side of the head" or "rush to the head of something. Whatever you call it, it is a great album. Politik, or The Scientist are great, great songs.
But the album that SOF won't stop playing (and I don't mind at all) is Ryan Adams' Cold Roses. Let it Ride, When will you come back home, or Sweet Illusions are all really great songs. Something about that voice that just soothes the angry soul.
Music is good.
"When did my departure from evangelicalism begin? On the day the war in Iraq began"
Thanks to Carlos over at Jesus Politics (as usual) for this great link to a really, really first rate post. This is so close to my experience. Anyway, I hope she doesn't mind this long quote.
Christians and Terrorism
When did my departure from evangelicalism begin? On the day the war in Iraq began. Nearly each Sunday was a sorrow; each Thursday Bible study worse.
It wasn't that war was preached from the pulpit. It usually wasn't. It's that there seemed to be utter unanymity among my fellow church members that the war was right and just, beyond question or biblical challenge.
Every Sunday I opened the church bulletin to see a call to pray for our soldiers, who were 'defending our freedom.' Never once was there a call in print or aloud to pray for the people of Iraq.
When we would visit other churches when we were traveling it was far worse. Once I walked out in protest of the pro-war rally that the Sunday service had become.
I had stopped listening to Christian radio long before--just after September 11, when suddenly people for whom Christ died were 'monsters' who deserved our deepest revenge.
Never talk of peace, never a mention of answering a curse with blessing, never a word about forgiveness or reconciliation, never a prayer for our nation's enemies.
But always unquestioning support of war and the war president.
In church. On Christian radio. Week in. Week out.
No, we're not told that we achieve eternal paradise by killing our enemies. But in every town and every city, the people living in expectation of eternal paradise with Christ are receiving and passing on the message that killing our enemies is a blessed act.
And I grieve for the people of London. Untimely death is untimely death no matter the shade of skin, texture of hair, first language, or religion of the victims and perpetrators.
What would Jesus do?
Paul Krugman says it too
Karl Rove's America - New York Times
"What Mr. Rove understood, long before the rest of us, is that we're not living in the America of the past, where even partisans sometimes changed their views when faced with the facts. Instead, we're living in a country in which there is no longer such a thing as nonpolitical truth. In particular, there are now few, if any, limits to what conservative politicians can get away with: the faithful will follow the twists and turns of the party line with a loyalty that would have pleased the Comintern.
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Mr. Rove has been much criticized for saying that liberals responded to the attack by wanting to offer the terrorists therapy - but what he said about conservatives, that they 'saw the savagery of 9/11 and the attacks and prepared for war,' is equally false. What many of them actually saw was a domestic political opportunity - and none more so than Mr. Rove.
A less insightful political strategist might have hesitated right after 9/11 before using it to cast the Democrats as weak on national security. After all, there were no facts to support that accusation.
But Mr. Rove understood that the facts were irrelevant. . . .
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Mr. Rove also understands, better than anyone else in American politics, the power of smear tactics. Attacks on someone who contradicts the official line don't have to be true, or even plausible, to undermine that person's effectiveness. All they have to do is get a lot of media play, and they'll create the sense that there must be something wrong with the guy.
And now we know just how far he was willing to go with these smear tactics: as part of the effort to discredit Joseph Wilson IV, Mr. Rove leaked the fact that Mr. Wilson's wife worked for the C.I.A. I don't know whether Mr. Rove can be convicted of a crime, but there's no question that he damaged national security for partisan advantage. If a Democrat had done that, Republicans would call it treason.
But what we're getting, instead, is yet another impressive demonstration that these days, truth is political. One after another, prominent Republicans and conservative pundits have declared their allegiance to the party line. They haven't just gone along with the diversionary tactics, like the irrelevant questions about whether Mr. Rove used Valerie Wilson's name in identifying her (Robert Novak later identified her by her maiden name, Valerie Plame), or the false, easily refuted claim that Mr. Wilson lied about who sent him to Niger. They're now a chorus, praising Mr. Rove as a patriotic whistle-blower.
Ultimately, this isn't just about Mr. Rove. It's also about Mr. Bush, who has always known that his trusted political adviser - a disciple of the late Lee Atwater, whose smear tactics helped President Bush's father win the 1988 election - is a thug, and obviously made no attempt to find out if he was the leaker.
Most of all, it's about what has happened to America. How did our political system get to this point?"
July 14, 2005
Sometimes bad people win
As you can see from my earlier post, I am a bit on edge over this Rove thing. I think deep down I believe that bad people will be found out and that good people will eventually do good. Talk about naive, eh?
I sometimes over-simplify things. I think I understand the conservative Christian world view. Or at least part of it. I grew up learning that truth was absolute--right is right and wrong is wrong.
But I also understand that the political world is completely different. Right is what you can get. Politics is about compromise and making deals. Ted Kennedy and Orrin Hatch are on opposite sides of just about everything, but they work together.
Those two worlds don't work well together. Those are not compatible world-views. And Karl Rove, when he isn't undermining national security, is completely in the second world. But he has sold the first world the idea that he (and his annoying boss) are in the first world.
But they aren't. You don't race bait if you are a committed Christian who understands the "sin" of racism. You don't badmouth people behind their back. You are charged to actually treat your enemies with grace and love. Rove and Bush don't even come close.
So, as I am calmer tonight (after mowing) I still struggle with those who believe in an absolute world view making excuses for people like Bush and Rove. And I can't tell you how many people have done that. People who believe that right is right tell me with a straight face that you can't expect Bush to admit making errors. Are you kidding me? Things they would never allow or tolerate in their kids, they excuse and even encourage in their President.
I am struggling with that. I don't want to resent people for giving us Bush. I am preparing to have to forgive my fellow Americans for letting Bush and Rove get away with murder.
But as a wise man once told me, forgiveness is a tricky thing. If you lend someone money and they never pay you back, you can forgive that debt, but you don't have to loan them money anymore.
I will work to forgive the church. I just won't trust the church for moral advice.
I sometimes over-simplify things. I think I understand the conservative Christian world view. Or at least part of it. I grew up learning that truth was absolute--right is right and wrong is wrong.
But I also understand that the political world is completely different. Right is what you can get. Politics is about compromise and making deals. Ted Kennedy and Orrin Hatch are on opposite sides of just about everything, but they work together.
Those two worlds don't work well together. Those are not compatible world-views. And Karl Rove, when he isn't undermining national security, is completely in the second world. But he has sold the first world the idea that he (and his annoying boss) are in the first world.
But they aren't. You don't race bait if you are a committed Christian who understands the "sin" of racism. You don't badmouth people behind their back. You are charged to actually treat your enemies with grace and love. Rove and Bush don't even come close.
So, as I am calmer tonight (after mowing) I still struggle with those who believe in an absolute world view making excuses for people like Bush and Rove. And I can't tell you how many people have done that. People who believe that right is right tell me with a straight face that you can't expect Bush to admit making errors. Are you kidding me? Things they would never allow or tolerate in their kids, they excuse and even encourage in their President.
I am struggling with that. I don't want to resent people for giving us Bush. I am preparing to have to forgive my fellow Americans for letting Bush and Rove get away with murder.
But as a wise man once told me, forgiveness is a tricky thing. If you lend someone money and they never pay you back, you can forgive that debt, but you don't have to loan them money anymore.
I will work to forgive the church. I just won't trust the church for moral advice.
Rove and Bush make me sick
As Joseph Wilson put it: "'The president has said repeatedly, 'I am a man of my word,' ' Wilson added. 'He should stand up and prove that his word is his bond and fire Karl Rove.'"
I keep thinking about how many Christians have repeated the myth that Bush is some kind of good Christian man. He plays the principle/faith cards very well. Of course, I have not seen a bit of it in action. In Sunday School, they called it the "fruit." You know, the outward demonstration of the inward heart.
That doesn'ty apply to Bush, evidently. His scumsucking advisor undermined our country and has lied about it repeatedly. And what does his boss do? look by while the RNC has already started to not only excuse Rove, but savage Cooper (the reporter) and of course Wilson.
These people are bullies and amoral, power-hungry thugs. But I already know that. After the election, I wrote this about KR and Karen Hughes
In other words, Rove is like a mob-hit man. He does what he does. I understand that. What I don't understand are the people who I respect who seem to think him harmless at best, and a great American at worst.
I need to let this go, I understand. But I just don't understand the mentality. I don't understand the fervent believe in Jesus Christ mixed with the apologies and deflections for people like Rove. I don't get it.
I keep thinking about how many Christians have repeated the myth that Bush is some kind of good Christian man. He plays the principle/faith cards very well. Of course, I have not seen a bit of it in action. In Sunday School, they called it the "fruit." You know, the outward demonstration of the inward heart.
That doesn'ty apply to Bush, evidently. His scumsucking advisor undermined our country and has lied about it repeatedly. And what does his boss do? look by while the RNC has already started to not only excuse Rove, but savage Cooper (the reporter) and of course Wilson.
These people are bullies and amoral, power-hungry thugs. But I already know that. After the election, I wrote this about KR and Karen Hughes
"Rove and Karen Hughes are . . . the types that in a different neighborhood peddle crack to kids. Rove took Bush to South Carolina in 2000 and thought, hey, what would these fine upstanding southerners think about race issues? If presenting John McCain as a racist would have sold, he would have done that. Instead, he spread the rumor that McCain had committed adultery with a black woman. And Bush stood by and profited. I guess that would make him the pimp. But I am not surprised that Rove did what he did. He used the deep-seated fear of gay people that American Christianity has become, and profited yet again off that fear. He did what he did."
In other words, Rove is like a mob-hit man. He does what he does. I understand that. What I don't understand are the people who I respect who seem to think him harmless at best, and a great American at worst.
I need to let this go, I understand. But I just don't understand the mentality. I don't understand the fervent believe in Jesus Christ mixed with the apologies and deflections for people like Rove. I don't get it.
So offensive I feel ill
Thanks to Carlos, I found this little gem of right wing nuttery.
You see, only conservatives can love their country and criticize a President or military effort. Only conservatives can badmouth the Clintons and undermine their efforts in Kosovo and still claim the mantle of Patriot. Only conservatives can wave 9-11 in everyone's face, while they undermine the people who actually did the cleanup and rescue operation.
I am really, really tired of being called unAmerican.
"In fact, according to Columnist Jack Cashill, the current leftist, hate America first philosophy of people like George Soros, Michael Moore, and Ward Churchill began in the mid 1920's as a Communist attempt to undermine the American way of life by suggesting that America, and not the Soviet Union is the source of evil in the world."
You see, only conservatives can love their country and criticize a President or military effort. Only conservatives can badmouth the Clintons and undermine their efforts in Kosovo and still claim the mantle of Patriot. Only conservatives can wave 9-11 in everyone's face, while they undermine the people who actually did the cleanup and rescue operation.
I am really, really tired of being called unAmerican.
Is this an activist judge?
From Pandagon, this story about a religious theme park that has convinced a Florida judge to give it full tax exempt status. I am fine with that for a church, but this is a place that is selling all sorts of crap, including the ability to eat a "goliath burger" in one of their dining establishments. There are also shops. This is a commercial venture with religious overtones. That strikes me as quite different from a church.
Rove watch
As Daniel Schorr reminds us, this story is not about a "leak," but about a war and how we were misled into that war. The GOP is trying to reframe the discussion toward a simple and Washington-tradition leak.
Couple of points on Rove. If you watch him talk (last year) about the leak and what he did and didn't say--and you hated Bill Clinton for his parsing of the word "is"--you have to agree he is a slimy and evil man. He is not about anything but power. As other bloggers have noted, he has demonstrated that his primary loyalty is not to America. If it was, he would not have chosen to out a CIA operative working on WMD proliferation for Christ's sake!
This is a guy who spread a rumor in a local race that a good judge with a record of accomplishing great things for local youth was really a pedophile. This guy is scum.
Now the question is what kind of integrity the President has. Will he actually fire someone who undermined National Security? I was about to make a joke about Condi Rice, but whatever she did or did not do about terrorism does not appear to be motivated by simple political ambition. Rove outed a CIA operative in a way that would make a mob boss blush. He did it to shut up a political critic.
Where is the outrage from the right? Remember that feeling of frustration over the White House Travel Office? What about the Buddhist Temple? Can't you mister any outrage over a political operative who would do this? Or is power your only goal. Or is the fact that Bush says God chose him enough, and now whatever means his office takes are all justified?
Rove must go. and I am still waiting for the grownups.
Couple of points on Rove. If you watch him talk (last year) about the leak and what he did and didn't say--and you hated Bill Clinton for his parsing of the word "is"--you have to agree he is a slimy and evil man. He is not about anything but power. As other bloggers have noted, he has demonstrated that his primary loyalty is not to America. If it was, he would not have chosen to out a CIA operative working on WMD proliferation for Christ's sake!
This is a guy who spread a rumor in a local race that a good judge with a record of accomplishing great things for local youth was really a pedophile. This guy is scum.
Now the question is what kind of integrity the President has. Will he actually fire someone who undermined National Security? I was about to make a joke about Condi Rice, but whatever she did or did not do about terrorism does not appear to be motivated by simple political ambition. Rove outed a CIA operative in a way that would make a mob boss blush. He did it to shut up a political critic.
Where is the outrage from the right? Remember that feeling of frustration over the White House Travel Office? What about the Buddhist Temple? Can't you mister any outrage over a political operative who would do this? Or is power your only goal. Or is the fact that Bush says God chose him enough, and now whatever means his office takes are all justified?
Rove must go. and I am still waiting for the grownups.
Did Dobson misread the Bible? I don't think "I will destroy you" is in red letters
religious right watch: The Christian Right is after Mike DeWine: "Sen. Mike DeWine (R-Ohio) has the Religious Right on his tail.? The very conservative elements that control the Republican Party want to punish him for backing the compromise that averted the so-called 'nuclear option' and preserved the important Senate tradition of the filibuster."
July 13, 2005
Bernard Goldberg is a WAY out of his league
Watching Jon Stewart (thanks Anglican for the reminder) and winced when I heard that Goldberg was on pimping his book. The guy annoys me. His book on media Bias is simply laughable given the proliferation of conservative biases in the news.
Well, it was worth the watching. Jon Stewart is kicking his ass. Goldberg's big complaint is the f-word? Are you kidding me? Torture? Lies to get us into a war? He also equates racist remarks with the f-word? Really? What a fucking moron. (oops, sorry, Bernie. Did I just undermine the culture?) Please!
Again. Torture. Invading Iraq on false premises. Outing a CIA operative. Those are obscene and vulgar.
Jon really took him apart. Paraphrasing the last sentence: "The real power is in Washington where transparency is the issue, and I wish smart guys like you would focus on the Richard Perle's and Karl Roves rather than complain about Barbara Streisand's blog."
Preach it Jon. The smartest guy in the country.
Well, it was worth the watching. Jon Stewart is kicking his ass. Goldberg's big complaint is the f-word? Are you kidding me? Torture? Lies to get us into a war? He also equates racist remarks with the f-word? Really? What a fucking moron. (oops, sorry, Bernie. Did I just undermine the culture?) Please!
Again. Torture. Invading Iraq on false premises. Outing a CIA operative. Those are obscene and vulgar.
Jon really took him apart. Paraphrasing the last sentence: "The real power is in Washington where transparency is the issue, and I wish smart guys like you would focus on the Richard Perle's and Karl Roves rather than complain about Barbara Streisand's blog."
Preach it Jon. The smartest guy in the country.
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