June 20, 2006

Oh help me Jebus

Dr. Rex Curry (I believe) dropped by and "argues that the entire Pledge of Allegiance is unconstitutional and should end. http://rexcurry.net/pledge-of-allegiance-newdow-rio-linda.html"

Dr. Curry, you are going to have to pardon me. I don't mean this as a personal attack in anyway, but I want absolutely nothing to do with this case. Are you right? Is the Pledge probably unconstitutional? Probably. You certainly know more about the constitutional law than I. Is it borderline fascist and ridiculous? Probably.

All of that doesn't matter. This is one of those fights that you can't possibly win. Oh sure, you might prevail in some courts. But wouldn't it be easier to simply write a check to Karl Rove's candidates in the sum of about 100 million dollars? Or break off a 10 or 20 million dollar donation each to James Dobson, Pat Roberson, Jerry Falwell and D. James Kennedy? Because that is what this case actually does. It writes the ad copy and direct mailings for the rightwingnuts. "Radical leftists hates America so much they want the Pledge of Allegiance ruled unconstitutional!"

And for what? Would we actually be a better society without the Pledge of Allegiance? Would it make one tinker's damn about poverty? About true religious freedom? No. It would not.

If we are to go to court, why not take on the "abstinence only" programs that endanger our kids and will result in thousands, if not millions of deaths around the world? Or torture? For Christ's literal sake, if we as a culture allow torture, then who in the hell are we?

Fighting the constitutionality of the pledge, no offense, is just as meaningless as conservatives (and some damn, weak, spineless democrats) glorifying flag burning and worshipping the flag. Let's fight the real battles for church/state separation. Let's address the real moral issues we face. Let's not raise money for the opposition and allow true extremists to paint all liberals as outside the mainstream.


rexcurrydotnet said...

The flag desecration amendment is aimed at a new fad in schools: missing flags. Politicians are trying to stop the disappearance of flags from classrooms in the government's schools. School officials occasionally find some of the flags, desecrated or burned. In the many states that mandate a daily chanting of the pledge, students see an empty space where the flag once hung. The trend coincides with a spike in the number of students who refuse to participate in chanting the pledge each morning. Shocking new discoveries about the Pledge of Allegiance (below), coupled with the the USA's growing police state, are causing the anti authoritarian trend among students. http://rexcurry.net/book1a1a1pledge-ch8a1a2.html

Any Constitutional amendment against flag desecration is anti libertarian and is bad. State laws already dictate a pledge of allegiance to the flag daily in many schools. Why is it that flag fetishists who tout flag laws don't chant the pledge every day? Their hypocrisy masks the dark desire to make children and adults worship government daily at the ring of a government bell. Please oppose the amendment, and educate everyone about these new historical discoveries:

1. Dr. Rex Curry showed that the USA's early Pledge of Allegiance (to the flag) used a straight-arm salute and it was the origin of the salute of the monstrous National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nazis). http://rexcurry.net/pledgesalute.html
Historic photographs are at http://rexcurry.net/pledge2.html
also see http://rexcurry.net/book1a1contents-pledge.html

2. Many people were persecuted for refusing to give the straight-arm salute to the national flag. That was the national flag of the USA and of Germany. It happened in the USA (to the stars and stripes) and in Germany (to the swastika flag) at the same time. Many of the people who were persecuted were religious people who believed that the pledge and the salute were the sacrilegious worship of government. They had a basis for their belief. Most people do not know that a cross was worshiped as the notorious symbol of the National Socialist German Workers' Party. The group called the symbol on its national flag the "Hakenkreuz," not the swastika. Hakenkreuz means "hooked cross." Although the swastika was an ancient symbol, Professor Rex Curry discovered that it was also used sometimes by German National Socialists to represent "S" letters for their "socialism." With a 45 degree turn of his Hakenkreuz, the leader of German National Socialists combined the cross with collectivism, merged church and state, meshed religion and socialism, and mandated the worship of government. Hitler altered his own signature to use the same stylized "S" letter for "socialist" and similar alphabetic symbolism still shows on Volkswagens.

3. Francis Bellamy (author of the "Pledge of Allegiance") and Edward Bellamy (author of the novel "Looking Backward") were socialists. Francis and Edward were both self-proclaimed National Socialists and they supported the "Nationalism" movement in the USA, the "Nationalist" magazine, and the "Nationalist Educational Association." They wanted all of society to ape the military and they touted "military socialism" and the "industrial army." Edward inspired the "Nationalist Party" (in the USA) and their dogma influenced socialists worldwide (including Germany) via "Nationalist Clubs." http://rexcurry.net/bellamy-edward-german-connections.html

The Pledge is part of the USA’s growing police-state. The insane government in the U.S. is twice the size of the prior administration (in social spending ALONE), financed with enormous taxes, and still bankrupt with massive debt. The government could cause comatose persons to pledge dis-allegiance, to burn or desecrate the flag, and recite a declaration of independence. The size of the government, and the history of the pledge, make the pledge a desecration of the flag.

If government's schools (and the media) told the true history of the Pledge, then no student would chant it and all flags would disappear from classrooms. If Americans knew the truth, then the Pledge would cease to exist.

Fight the flag hags and their flag fetish. Government's schools should not teach kids to verbally fellate flags each morning. It is like a brainwashed cult of the omnipotent state. For adults it is childish. The pledge is emotional masturbation.

Remove the Pledge from the flag, remove flags from schools, remove schools from government.

Streak said...

I guess this is what passes for a discussion from you?

Streak said...

In fact, until Dr. Rex Curry can actually present a dialogue or meaningful communication beyond this, I am not interested. And the referring to yourself in the third person isn't helping.

Anonymous said...

Hey, you know what else is unconstitutional?


The first amendment is quite clear that NO LAW shall be passed restricting freedom of speech. As the strict constructionists like Scalia keep reminding us, it is not up to us to whimsically interpret the founders. They knew what they were doing. NO LAW does not mean SOME LAWS.

Ipso facto, abracadabra, perjury is unconstitutional.

"I was just exercising my first amendment right, yer honor."


Streak said...

Yeah, that strict construction argument is kind of like the "selective literalism" of the fundamentalists.

Thanks for stopping by, Dave. I always enjoy your comments.

ubub said...

UBUB is intrigued, UBUB really is. UBUB would like to humbly share UBUB's opinions on ths matter and UBUB urges others to do so as well.

UBUB shares Dr.Rex Curry's concern about a growing police state and the quasi-worship of government. UBUB has also spent time studying the history of education and from these studies UBUB has learned that both causes and solutions of social problems of all types are frequently defined as being located in public schools.

UBUB sees this in a similar vein and UBUB notes the apparent similarities between claims of flag desecration and allegations of persecutiuon of Christians. Just as conservative Christians, who currently control all three branches of US government, cry persecution when some oppose their hegemony through subtle or overt means, those who would support a form of "government worship," as described by rexcurrydotnet, similarly trump up rare instances of flag burning as an expression of opposition such that it can be defined as a crisis.

UBUB finds these phenomena to be eerily similar in that both are expressions of dominance and authoritarianism disguised as piety and patriotism. UBUB sees them as part of an attempt to further conflate spiritual religion and civil religion. According to UBUB, this is a way to advance the ideology of AmeriChristianity such that opposition to government is not only disloyal but heretical.

So, UBUB, you may be asking, who, then, is to address this crisis? Why the very institutions that the problem definers have pinned the blame on, the public schools. It is a matter of institutional control and control of individuals through those institutions. As UBUB has shown, the green grass grows all around and around and the green grass grows all around.

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